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Getting your drink on in Vancouver 101

Vanessa Knight, the Director of Events and Student Life at Kwantlen, in collaboration with Ashley Fehr (the Chair and Director of Academic Affairs at Kwantlen) recently wrote a piece regarding the availability of late night transit out of downtown Vancouver which really annoyed me.

As a recap, Ms. Knight is miffed that TransLink did not run transit later than usual on Halloween night while she and her “posse” were out “getting their drink on”. Apparently sobering up in the wee hours of a cold November morning while dressed in a slutty, cold-weather-inappropriate costume kind of sucks.

Ms. Knight also complains that TransLink is more concerned with impressing visitors for the Olympics than its own citizens (and unfortunately, that’s probably true) and that McDonald’s has more sense because they stay open late to take advantage of all the drunk people with the munchies.

I don’t disagree with the assertion that public transit should be available late at night for people too inebriated to drive – that’s one of the great things about public transit – but how late is late enough?

Vancouver, a city that tags itself as “world class” (and don’t get me started on that misnomer), has transit that stops running pretty early considering how late the night life in downtown Vancouver runs. Any city that is truly “world class” (I’m looking at you Berlin) has a 24-hour transit system in place – or at least one that runs until 2 or 3 a.m.

And let’s face it; a cab ride from downtown Vancouver to say Burnaby, Surrey or Port Coquitlam etc. can get pretty expensive – and that assumes you can find a cab driver who will take you anywhere if you’re drunk. Most cabbies, quite reasonably, don’t want drunk people in their car.

That being said, TransLink’s operating hours are not exactly a secret. TransLink didn’t just spring this on an unsuspecting public for Halloween – the hours are clearly posted on their website along with maps of every route and time tables for every single stop. Their website isn’t easy to navigate (the maps are hard to get to), but the information is there.

Perhaps the reason TransLink doesn’t run later isn’t just that they don’t care about the citizens of Vancouver, or that they are financially constrained but, perhaps they don’t wish to be perceived as supporting “getting your drink on” at clubs. I bet they also don’t want to clean up the resulting mess of a bunch of drunks with food from those captains of industry at McDonald’s off the bus seats and floors.

Another good reason for transit not to run late: TransLink performs maintenance on buses and train lines at night to ensure that everyone gets a safe ride during their hours of operation. It seems TransLink is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Terminate service at 1 a.m. – people complain. Run transit 24-hours and do the bare minimum for maintenance and repairs – people would complain.

Knowing that Ms. Knight, perhaps you should have planned your night out a little better. And that goes for the “other 200 people” you mentioned and the “hundreds of people trapped downtown” every Friday and Saturday night. You could have done any of the following before headed out dressed as a “slutty version” of anything:

  • Rent a hotel room together.
  • Share a cab to the closest house and crash.
  • Plan your time accordingly and make sure you’re on the last bus home.

These ideas are not beyond your intelligence.

Just for the record, I find it very hard to believe that the same people get “trapped” downtown every weekend. Is their ability to remember when the buses stop running hampered by the amount of alcohol they consume? I could see that happening once or twice, but every weekend? Give me a break – if that’s really the case, then those hundreds of people are morons who drink too much.

I suppose your next argument would be cash flow – but, if you can afford to pay cover charges at clubs and pay more to get drunk at said clubs; you can afford to share the cost of a hotel room or a cab.

Your “bleary eyed $2.50” is hardly an inducement for incurring the extra expense of running transit an hour later.

I’ve seen drunken people on transit here – it’s not pretty: loud, obnoxious, reeking of booze (and, in one case, urine) and a river of vomit under the seats. I sure didn’t envy the poor driver who had to hose down and disinfect the bus that night. I wonder if he appreciated those party-goers $2.50?

Your right to pass out on the bus, be a drunken nuisance, or throw up on yourself does not trump TransLink’s policy of providing their employees with a safe and puke-free environment in which to work.

Ms. Knight, as the Events and Student Life Director for the Kwantlen Student Association, couldn’t you find something more important and pressing to write about? This article – written in association with your position at Kwantlen, gives the impression that being inebriated and unable to get home is part of the routine for Kwantlen students. Also, as someone who is in charge of events and student life, you do a poor job of planning your own events and life if you can’t manage to catch a bus out of downtown by 1 a.m.

I’m even more surprised that the Chair and Director of Academic Affairs thinks this is an appropriate story to have associated with Kwantlen.

How would you feel about a $2.50 donation towards finding something resembling journalism at Kwantlen?

2 comments

1 Ashley Fehr { 12.01.09 at 10:39 pm }

Hello,
I think you have missed the point. Our point was that TransLink did not account for the time change on Halloween. As an organization looking to get a UPass this kind of discussion is important.
I don’t want to get into a battle with you over every misguided point in your piece here (of which there are a lot), but I do need to ask if you have ever heard of hyperbole?
Thank you for the enjoyable read.

Hi Ashley – thanks for reading!

I wanted to address your comment here:

I don’t believe TransLink made any oversights at all regarding the time change. The time change takes place at 2 a.m. – a full hour after the buses have stopped running. However, if you weren’t aware of that, perhaps you ought to have mentioned your perception of Translink’s oversight regarding the time change more clearly in the article. As it was, it came across as irresponsible whining about being drunk and unable to plan better for transportation home. I think the points in my article answer yours rather well given how your article sounds.

“As an organization looking to get a UPass”, perhaps you could have mentioned, or discussed the UPass in your article. People will take this far more seriously if you present it as a serious issue – and not as a poorly planned drunken escapade. Not once do you even mention the UPass issue – so if my response is “misguided” it’s only because your article makes no mention of the issue you apparently wanted to address.

Also, just a point of interest for you, if you tell someone that their article is “misguided” and then sarcastically ask if the writer has ever heard of hyperbole, it means that you do, very much, wish to “get into a battle”.

2 Allison { 12.02.09 at 10:16 am }

Poor drunken Ashley! Even if you do invest in UPass, and have all that access to transit, you’re still an idiot. Maybe, instead of griping about the transit system and their supposed inability to cater to all the drunks for one extra hour on Halloween; you should have stopped shaking your drunken ass in the clubs a half an hour earlier, and got in line for a bus. You know, those same buses that were full of other drunks, who seemed to plan a little better than you. Even if the transit system had remained open as late as your beloved McD’s, you would still be whining. Maybe use your head for three seconds, you are in school so we know your brain works sometimes, and just plan your night accordingly.

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